#18 To Infinity And Beyond: All Things Space

Hello everybody! This week, in honour of the recent Artemis II mission we recorded an episode about our universe, opinions and the mission itself. With mentions of David Bowie and Matt Damon not to be missed, this episode may not give you the most scientific space lesson but certainly the most entertaining! Love you to the moon and back!

*We would also like to apologise for any echoing and volume distortion throughout the episode but some problems are best left unsolved!*

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to another Kiki Ogre episode. Welcome back to another episode. It's been a did an intro some of it.

SPEAKER_00 0:09

Hey guys! Hello. Today's episode is on the recent Apollo mission. Wait, no, never mind, never mind. Let's start guys. On the recent Artemis II mission and like other Apollo missions in general.

unknown 0:28

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great. And um So yeah, what do we want to talk about first?

SPEAKER_01 0:37

Well, will we name the members of the crew?

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

So the crew seems so fun.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

I keep saying like selfies they take in space. They just look like that on so much fun. I'd love to go to space.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

So we have the crew is um commander Reed Wiseman, pilot Victor Glover, um mission specialist uh Christina I can't say I say Coach Yeah Um and Mission Specialist Jeremy Hansen Wow So yeah starts in today's episode podcast episode podcast episode guys getting late okay yeah so would you guys go to space if you had the choice?

SPEAKER_00 1:28

No um I would if they said to you okay five years from now you can go into space you just have to train do you want to do it? Like if you're offered this special program pre program.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Well it depends on who I'm going with. Like if there's a three of me.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

Yeah, if there's a three of you I would say no, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

No, I would say no, because like what we train to know.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

No, but they'll give us five years.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

That's enough. Then yeah, I'd probably go.

SPEAKER_00 1:58

I would go the training seems so fun though. You get to like float around in like no gravity thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Well, yeah, that's probably like for like one day, and then the rest of it's just all this theory and or like the food. I don't know if I calculations would be no problem for you, Clona. Oh yeah, well Oh, imagine Can you like imagine the amount of calculations though it took for them to get correct in the Artemis 2? Because it's very specific. They're not landing on the moon, they're using like the gravitational forces of the Earth to launch up and go around the moon. So it's like it takes a lot of calculation and a lot of like precision.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

So how long it took them to actually formulate that. Imagine they use like AR.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Well, we should we should say that we're recording this before they've actually landed, also. Yes. So in case anything, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Good luck to them all this evening. Is it tonight?

unknown 2:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Yeah. It should be like any minute now or so.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

So they've been any minute now.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

Imagine we watch it live, live reaction.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Imagine we like saw it live. So they took off on April 1st, didn't they?

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

I didn't know it was April 1st. I thought it was the day after.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

No, I remember it was April 1st because everybody was like, is this like a massive pride? Yeah, everybody started to say, like, looking at the fine pixels and they were like, guys, it's AI. So it's not AI.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Imagine. Yeah, where can you see it from? Was it just if you were in like America?

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Yeah. They took off where'd they take it off from?

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Like um uh Kennedy space station. Was it? Yep.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

I was meant to go there to do a NASA camp.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Really? Wait, I remember that! Oh my god, I remember that. That was like one of the first things I like knew about you.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Yeah, I remember Tom made it with Sophie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Yeah, I was full of surprises last year. Um, yeah, I might still do it. I don't know, depending.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

What does it like entail?

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Um, I think it's just like you go and you do like stuff like the zero gravity machines and whatnot, and you still have to go.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Really? Deardre is how would you even invent one of those? How are they like like let's just get rid of gravity? Like what?

SPEAKER_01 4:03

You know, you're the most likely the night. You're the one to go. No, I have no idea how they do that. Imagine Imagine Clodo becomes a famous Ashnot to discover the podcast where we thought the moon landing was a conspiracy. Yeah, like a weird company. Oh my god. Yeah, no, I wouldn't go to space though. Um it's too dangerous. Like you see so many times that I know a lot of the missions that they do that this happens, they aren't manned, but like even takeoff, like it just goes wrong instantly. You know?

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Yeah, like Apollo 3 was it, where it exploded on takeoff.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Yeah, like stuff like that. Just the risk is just too high. Like it's the most dangerous thing you can do, really. Going into space.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

And was it Apollo 13 that exploded on the way back?

SPEAKER_01 4:49

I think so. Was it? Like even though I think that's I think so, they were landing. Yeah. I know it didn't go to plan. I think there was like seven people that passed away. Like it's just I don't know, like I wouldn't like to to go. I think it was the challenger with the seven people that it was the challenger. It was a challenger and then another one, Columbia. And then yeah, I don't know. I think there was one last one that I know about and I can't remember the name of it.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

I think it was you know what I was thinking about? Yeah. I'd love to be like working in like um where is it, Houston, Texas, in the 60s for NASA. Like imagine how cool that would be.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Wasn't Snoopy like the icon for NASA when you're going into space?

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Oh yeah, Charlie Round was the name of something.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Yeah, I thought you were about to call about Snoop Dogg and I was like, what could this tell me this movie about? No, yeah, it was the the challenger, I think. It yeah, it broke apart 73 seconds it did its flight, killing all seven crew members. Yeah, that's the one. See, stuff like that, like you go up, right, and you just think I there's a high chance I'll never see Earth again. Isn't there someone training to go to Mars for the rest of her life? I feel like there is. There is for sure because I've seen it about it. She's trained.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

She's trained, she's trained like all of her life for it, and she's planning to go to Mars. I don't know if it's gonna go through though. I wouldn't say it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Apollo 13 is the one where on the way back part of the ship was in flames, so they had to like take off it and fly back in the rest of it. I think they made it back then, didn't they?

SPEAKER_01 6:33

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Okay. Oh right, yeah. Have you guys seen the Apollo movies?

SPEAKER_01 6:38

No. No, I haven't seen any of that. I've seen the Martian though.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Oh my god, the Martian is such a good movie.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

That's what's his name again? Mat Damin.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Oh my god, what was that? Yeah, that's that's a really good one. And it's very um detailed and accurate, I know. I remember I was in a science last and we were learning about like space, and my teacher asks who here has seen the Martian. Just me, and I was like, Yes, I'm so cool.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

It's basically about this guy who goes to the moon.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

No, it's Mars.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Okay. It's basically about this guy who goes to Mars and then his crew leave without him because they think he died in this like explosion, or there was a storm. Yeah, it was a storm. But he's actually alive, so then he has to like basically survive there by himself. But he sends signals back to them through the like uh camera rovers. Yeah. So they see. Oh my god, yeah, that's such a cool scene, and he has it like on a sign or something, or they see something move and they're like, oh my god. But yeah, you should watch it.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

And interstellar as well. This is a good space for moving. Have you seen that? I haven't seen it, but I know basically about it. Do you think Christopher Nolan built like a whole like a whole cornfield just for the movie? The car just in CGI because he didn't. And he made a profit off of it as well. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

What would you actually do if you were like stranded on Mars by yourself? I don't know. I really don't know. What can you do there? It's like I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Like if you had no supplies, you'd just be caught.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

Is it Mars that it takes two years to get to?

SPEAKER_01 8:22

I don't know. You thought this mission was gonna take two years. Don't tell them that.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

I didn't realise they were coming back so soon, yeah, honestly. Um so it was Apollo 11. Oh my god. It's Apollo 11 that landed on the moon, wasn't it?

unknown 8:43

Again, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 8:45

I feel like it's because you're sending like a bulbo in the seems like you're like the superhero.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

You're like, it's on to range yourself, I don't want to catch. But what I think was funny is that when like they first started trying to send things to space, they first sent out fruit flies, and then they kind of progressed more and more so that they would send out like dog, they sent a dog, I forgot, Liga, Liga. They sent Oh my god, yeah! The first man was Yuri Gargarin. Actually, yeah, I do know something about space. Yeah, exactly. And like I think it was interesting how they kind of tested the waters more and more.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Wait, was he the one who was like from Russia? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Oh yeah, and there was like the whole space race thing. Yeah, so it was last week's episode about that. It was Apollo 11 on July 20th, 1969. They landed the lunar module, the Eagle. Oh, because like the Eagle has landed. Yeah. Oh right, okay. And Michael Collins orbited above.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Um For those of you not Irish, Michael Collins is a famous historical figure in Ireland for the rising, like 50 years prior. It's a different guy, but people find it amusing for some reason that they share this.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Imagine him just like floating around in space.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Yeah, speaking of like fruit flies and what I've actually had my leg I fly really badly. Wait, wait, where's it gone?

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Was it when you were in Germany? Oh, Claude was recently in Germany guys.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

It was like five minutes ago.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

No, I was in yeah, I came back from Germany yesterday. It was so good. It was in Britain. And I went to like all the museums. Um I I was in the same room as Sylvester Stallone once was. Wow. Wow. No, yeah, it's a great trip, I highly recommend it. But Paris is still my favourite. But anyways, back to space.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Does anyone want to know fun fact?

SPEAKER_01 10:33

I'd love to.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

I used to know like everything about the moon landing and now I forget. But from what I remember, when they were like Michael Collins was orbiting around the moon and the other two were like waiting on the moon, he was meant to kind of like collect them or something. Like they'd like take off and it like connects, but they like almost missed it. And also when they were landing on the moon, they only had 13 or 30 seconds of landing fuel left. So they thought it was gonna go wrong. So a lot of the TVs who were like broadcasting it were preparing to like shut off at the last second because they didn't want people to see it go wrong. And what else do I know?

SPEAKER_01 11:14

I thought your fun fact was gonna be that you used to know all about space and then you forgot about that.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

No, that would be pretty bad. Um also there was like something when they were landing, something had gone wrong, and there were all these really compliment complicated calculations, and none of the people in the room in Houston knew what was wrong, and they couldn't figure it out. So they were like, what is going on? And then this one guy who was an intern, he was like working there. What a lucky job, like to get an internship, and he figured it out and he knew what to do, so he started talking to Neil Armstrong, and no one else got it, but Neil Armstrong like understood what was going on, and he had to flip a switch and he used like a felt tip pen to flip the switch. I don't know why he couldn't use his hand, but fun fact, and that's what saved the mission.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Did the intern get like promoted?

SPEAKER_00 12:08

You'd hope so.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Yeah, it's a lot fair.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

And it was Space Oddity they played. We talked about that before. By David Bowie. Oh yeah, we should talk about the wake-up songs they played.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

They've played quite a few. So, well I know they've played um Pink Pony Club by Chapel Rowan. They've played Under Pressure, Under Pressure by Queen and the Club. Such a good one. That is a good one, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Sleepyhead, Green Light, In a Daydream, Working Class Heroes, Good Morning, Tokyo Drifting, and Lonesome Drifter.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Quite a selection, to be honest. I wonder who picks them. They're Slider.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

What?

SPEAKER_01 12:54

What? The actual big one.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

Oh no, I knew that one was there.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Uh yeah, actually, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

I wonder who does pick Colin Fry's, actually. In 2015, Colin Fry's of the NASA history division compiled a chronology of wake-up calls. Why though? He knew this is gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Wait, but like some of those songs like Pink Planco wasn't released in 2015.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

He's a time traveler. Good point. Oh, obviously. I remember hearing that if you go out really, really far into space, like you can't actually do this, but if you were to go really, really, really far and use like a really good telescope to see back to Earth, you'd like see dinosaurs on Earth. Because the light hasn't like reached that point yet.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Oh yeah, like stars. Isn't there like something where like I it's like like triceratopses are like further away from T-Rexes than humans are to T-Rexes or something like that? Yeah, it's because they were in different periods, like the Cretaceous period was different than the other periods. Sorry, stop!

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Yeah, why do you know this?

SPEAKER_01 14:05

And I like that especially.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Isn't it the Apollo 13 mission where they said Houston we have a problem?

SPEAKER_01 14:12

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

Cloda thinks it's a Mandela effect.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Well, no. I mentioned it briefly um earlier, but I was proven wrong. Um is there anything else you want to say about like space?

SPEAKER_00 14:30

What do you guys think of like black holes?

SPEAKER_01 14:32

That that's that terrible. I used to be so scared when I was like younger. Like scared like terrible like I was like a black.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

You know that one episode of The Simpsons where there's like a black hole in their basement? Okay, no. Have you guys watched The Simpsons? That's my You would love The Simpsons. Sophie. You would like you need to watch.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Oh try. I'd also intro it's my favorite part. When he writes something different on the board every time. Bart.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Um yeah, I think black holes are terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Black hole sun. I don't know the other words.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

I remember when I was smaller and I found that the sun would eventually like just die on a second. No same.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

I was like, oh my god. I was like, oh we're all dead. I was like, oh no same. Or you know, like it will never turn into it won't turn into like a black hole. That's so weird to me. Like it will explode eventually.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Yeah.

unknown 15:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

I d I'm not sure why though.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Oh, it's a episode of Spongebob where the sun like exploded and it was all Spongebob's fall down. I should've remember, but and then like the do you have the magical dolphin? No. God. It made me just seem really weird, but I swear it happened.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

No, you need to watch The Simpsons. The Simpsons is easily the funniest show I've ever watched.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Really?

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Yeah. One scene I always think about is when Homer, um, he like he he's takes a brownie or something, and Marge accidentally cuts off his thumb, but he has to get to the hospital, but he can't drive because his thumb is cut off. So he's like, okay, I'll hitchhike, but he can't put his thumb out to hitchhike. Oh my god. Because he got cut off.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

What is this? Bubbles the magic. Oh I uh oh my god, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Is that the Spongebob movie where that turns into like real life?

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Yeah, that's so weird to me. I used to find that really weird when I was younger. Um, but anyways, about space. Or like you know, there's like a galaxy for every like star.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Because like there's only one star per galaxy. So ours is obviously the sun.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Like, isn't that so weird? When you look out and see all those stars, it's like there's a whole galaxy for every one of them.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

Yeah, so then it's like selfish to think that there aren't other living things.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Yeah, for real. There's gotta be aliens.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Yeah. But I think aliens are the stereotype is a bit extreme.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Yeah, not aliens, just life.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Yeah. Civilization. I don't know. Space is just something that I don't think anyone's ever gonna completely understand.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Yeah. Because like people dedicate their lives to it and stuff, but then it's like I feel like I'd go mad if I spent my life studying space. Because it's just so like vast, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Because you also gotta think about what's going on here on the earth.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Oh, you know what's weird to me? How like the universe is always expanding. But what's it expanding like into?

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Nothingness.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

But why is there nothingness? Like, why isn't that already considered space? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 17:35

TDs are nice to questions.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Like, where is it expanding to? Like, you know, they discovered it was expanding, and that was like a whole big deal.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

I think it's because there's like a limit each time. There's a border and then just it just gets bigger.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

But why is there a border?

SPEAKER_01 17:52

I don't know, but it has to expand somehow.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Like Is it just that it's kind of expanding like from the middle? So it's like everything is just getting a slight bit bigger, like everything. I'd say the singularity, like when it exploded, there was like Oh my god, have you guys heard the theory that we're like in a singularity right now? That's really weird.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

No, I actually haven't heard that theory.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

You know, because like it started as a singularity and then it exploded into the universe, but it's like what if right now we're in a singularity and we're gonna like explode? Like that's so weird.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

I suppose. Imagine just floating on a rock and then Clodo floats by.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Yeah, no. Or like what do you guys think of the theory that like we could be living on Mars in a couple years?

SPEAKER_01 18:39

That would be it'd be like kind of crazy to me to be honest. Yeah, I mean I I can't really see it happening. Yeah, say at the same time I can. Like I feel like like Earth's not really working out too well these days, you know? Do you reckon the house prices would be cheaper on Earth or on Mars?

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Okay, what okay, new hypothetical theory. Right. If they were like half of the Earth can go live on Mars and half are gonna stay, but like it's gonna end soon because of climate change or something, what would you do?

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Isn't that like basically the plot of Wally?

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Really?

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Yeah, is that the Earth was becoming like it was getting really polluted and then they all went on massive spaceships away somewhere. Yeah, I feel like Wally has a good point. Wally was ahead of its time, guys. Yeah, I rewatched it the other day. I haven't watched the Martian yet, I rewatched Wally.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Or like remember when Katie Perry went to space?

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Everybody flamed her for laugh.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

I know, like well, I get it is kind of a waste of money.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

But it was kind of cool, like some people don't think it was real unless she was just an anti-gravity machine.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Imagine.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

You know, Ryan Gosling like called her up before his new movie project Hail Mary started um shooting for like advice on like space and stuff. She's just an astronauts you could probably get hooked up to it. Like Katie Perry.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

To just like ask what it's like or something. Yeah, to get like primary source, yeah. Yeah. David Bowie wanted to go to space, but Nassau was like no. They were like, no.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Do you think if he if he was still alive and he asked today that they landed? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Maybe yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

There's no way he wouldn't like that.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Yeah. Or is it Tom Cruise that's gonna be launched into space when he dies? Really? Because of Scientology. Oh. Isn't there a Tesla floating around in space? What? Yeah. Elon Musk, he sent one into space. There's so many satellites. Yeah, I always see satellites. Really? Yeah, whenever if you look up any night where you can see the star. It's not great where we live, but in other parts of the country. Um if you look up into the sky and you see like all the stars, you'll just see one moving across literally every minute or so. It's mad. Sometimes I'm like, it's a shooting star! And then I'm like, wait, no. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

We'll catch you next week. Yes. Bye guys.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Bye.